Father John BATHGATE b.c. 18311 m. (1) none (2) 18672 d. 18853
Mother Mary Ann WELSH aka WELCH b.c. 1841 m. none d. aft. 1874
Step-mother Breadalbane McLEAN PENDER b. 1835 m. (1) 18544 (2) 18675 d. 19116
Step-brother John Joseph SMITH b. 18557 m. 1877 Alice FRITT d. 18988
Step-sister Mary A. SMITH b. 18579 m. none - d. 1858
Step-sister Breadalbane Elizabeth SMITH b. 185810 m. 187911 Reginald FILMER d. 188912
Inmate Mary Ann BATHGATE13 b. 186114 m. 1883 (see below) d. 193315
Step-sister Catherine E. SMITH b. 186116 m. d.
Brother Alexander WELSH b. 186317 m. none - d. 186518
Half-sister Annie WELSH b. 186819 m. d.
Half-sister Agnes M. BATHGATE b. 186820 m. d.
Half-brother John Pender BATHGATE b. 187021 m. 193722 Eva May TAPP d. 196523
Half-sister Alexandra J. L. BATHGATE b. 187224 m.25 Ernest J. TERRY d. aft. 190226
Half-sister Catherine Cameron BATHGATE b. 187427 m. 189828 Stewart CORNER d. 192229
Half-brother Archibald Alexander BATHGATE b. 187530 m. none - d. 1875
Half-brother Archibald Alexander BATHGATE b. 187631 m. 190132 Alice M. ATKINSON d. 195633
Half-brother Arthur W. BATHGATE b. 187834 m. none - d. 1878
Husband Alfred TURNER b. 186135 m. 188336 d. 192337
Son Alfred Theodore TURNER b. 188438 m. 190939 Serafina TOZZI d. 193940
Son Frank L. TURNER b. 188541 m. none - d. 189342
Son Reginald George TURNER b. 188643 m. 191744 Myra E. WRIGHT d. 194745
Daughter Lillian Evelyn TURNER b. 188946 m. none - d. 196547
Daughter Minnie Irene TURNER b. 189148 m. 192049 Charles H. M. ROBERTS d. 197750
Daughter Ilma R. TURNER b. 189651 m. none - d. 189852
Relationship Name Age Height Hair Eyes Complexion Build Distinguishing features
Grandfather John WELSH53 37 5' 4¾" light hazel fresh stout
Grandmother Mary Ann WELSH54 18 4' 9½" dark brown blue ruddy stout scar on forehead, one on left little finger
Grandmother Mary Ann SMITH55 22 5' 0¼" brown grey ruddy lost one front tooth upper jaw
Great-uncle Richard MURPHY56 20 5' 7¼" brown grey ruddy & freckled scar left side of forehead; mark of a bite back of neck; large scar left shin
Mother Mary Ann WELSH57 20 4' 10" light blue fair slight medium nose and mouth; small chin

Mary Ann was six years old when she was admitted to the school on 22 November 1867.58 She had appeared at the West Maitland Police Court59 on 21 November, charged with being a child under the age of sixteen years living with a common prostitute. The prostitute was her mother although this wasn’t specified in court. Mary Ann WELSH was present at her daughter’s trial and said that 'BATHGATE' was willing to take care of Mary Ann but the court reported that when he had been spoken to by the bench, they reported that he had previously taken Mary Ann but had been annoyed by her mother till he had had to return her. He was unwilling to try a second time. The Entrance Book60 recorded that Mary Ann's level of education was 'alphabet' and her religion was Catholic but a further notation indicated that she was to be instructed in the Protestant faith.61 This request had been made in response to Agnes KING enquiring of John BATHGATE what religion he wished Mary Ann to be instructed. In a letter sent to Agnes KING on 26 May 1868, John, subsequently thanked KING and made the request concerning Mary Ann's religion. This controversial decision resulted in KING being spoken to by the Catholic priest, Father WELCH, who spoke with 'bitter and threatening language', and KING also noted that the constable on duty at the school also responded with 'insubordinate remarks' so she was forced to report him to Inspector HARRISON. The Colonial Secretary was very critical of KING stating 'I am directed to inform you that by such a course of action you have exceeded the [?] of your duties as Superintendent. You are not permitted by law to judge of the religious faith of the children committed to your charge.' KING was subsequently required to justify her actions but the Colonial Secretary eventually agreed with her decision after responses from the West Maitland magistrates were received.62

On 1 September 1869, CLARKE responded to a memo sent by the Principal Under secretary enquiring about an incident that had occurred on 26 December 1868, when Mary Ann WELSH came to see her daughter.

On the same day and at the same time some relations of the child’s father came to see her, when a most unseemly row took place between these and the child’s mother. The child was removed and they were informed that an order from the Honorable the Colonial Secretary would be necessary in future before they could get admittance.63

Mary Ann was transferred to Sydney when the school went to Biloela in May 1871 and was recorded by LUCAS as 'In the Institution' in his list compiled in April 1872.64 She was also mentioned by the teacher, Margaret KELLY, in her reports on 16 April65 and 22 August 1872,66 as being particularly attentive and progressing well in writing and geography. After LUCAS and his wife were discharged as Superintendent and Matron in late 1873, John DALE temporarily took over the superintendency of Biloela and KELLY was appointed as the Matron. In her letter reporting on the school at Biloela on 12 December 1873, KELLY indicated that since she had been involved in the Matron's duties, Mary Ann and Eliza McNEICE as school monitors, had operated the school for a week and they reported that everything had worked well during that time.67 Mary Ann was discharged as an apprentice to Mr. G. DAVIS of Liverpool on 12 December 1873.

Mary Ann almost certainly married Alfred TURNER in Sydney in 1883, although her ancestry was not reflected in the names of her children. Mary Ann was still alive68 when Alfred, the father of Theo., Reg., Lil. and Min., died, on 19 March 1923.69 At this time the family were living in Echuca, 55 Bourke Street, Waverley. Mary Ann TURNER died on 23 May 1933,70 and her death registration recorded her maiden name and identified that she was 70 years of age. She was buried with Alfred in Randwick71 General Cemetery on 24 May 1933.72 Only four children were identified in both her and Alfred's funeral notices. Lillian hadn't married by 1947 as she was recorded with her maiden name in the funeral notices for her brother, Reginald.


Mary Anne BATHGATE’s birth was registered as Mary A. WELSH in 1861.73 She was the illegitimate daughter of John BATHGATE and Mary Ann WELSH. Both her parents were identified by name in the Entrance Book which clearly specified that they weren’t married. The registration of the child, Alexander WELSH, in 1863 almost certainly indicated the birth of either Mary Ann's brother or a half-brother. It is likely that Mary Ann was well acquainted with the family of Mary Ann KINNAIRD.74

John BATHGATE had arrived with his parents, Archibald BATHGATE and Catherine CAMERON, and his siblings aboard the William Rodger in 1838. He may have been the man who was recorded working in the rescue boats during the floods in Maitland.75 His relationship with Mary Ann WELCH began at least as early as 1861 when Mary Ann was born and almost certainly continued at least until 1863 when Alexander was born. The relationship ended and John BATHGATE married the widow, Breadalbane SMITH née PENDER, in April 1867.76 At about the time of Mary Ann's admission to Newcastle, when John had requested that Mary Ann be brought up in the Protestant religion, the West Maitland Police court reported that he was employed as a book-keeper and general servant to John FAULKNER at West Maitland. The magistrates confirmed that he had separated from Mary Ann WELCH, that he had married and since his marriage he had been living a respectable life. John was being paid a pound a week and was prepared to pay for Mary Ann at the school.77 He died at the age of 54 at his residence, the Co-operative Bakery,78 West Maitland on 12 May 1885.79

The Newcastle admission's mother, Mary Ann WELSH or WELCH almost certainly appeared in court on at least one other occasion – 19 March 1868 – charged with keeping a disorderly house. She was very likely to have been the same woman who was charged with disorderly conduct on 5 March 1867, who had been sentenced to one month in Maitland gaol. The description attached to this record indicated that she had been born in the colony in about 1847. It is very unlikely that her baptism appeared in the NSW BDM Index as the one possible record for a woman of this name, recorded in 1845, was for a Church of England baptism in Melbourne80 and these details do not match what is known of the family. Mary Ann WELSH was very likely to have been a Catholic. She was probably the mother to another illegitimate daughter, Annie, in 1868. This child's father is unknown.

Mary Ann's age varied but earlier admissions to Newcastle Gaol most commonly indicated that she had been born in about 1841. In this admission she was identified as Mary Ann SMITH alias WELSH81 and this is believed to be an indication of a possible birth name rather than any earlier relationship. It is believed that Mary Ann WELSH was the daughter of a woman, probably named Mary Ann, who had arrived on the convict transport, Pyramus, in 1832.82 This woman may be either Mary Ann SMITH who had been transported for 14 years or Mary Ann WELSH.

Reports in the Maitland Mercury almost certainly located the WELSH residence during the 1860s as Wade’s Lane.83 Mary Ann WELSH wrote to CLARKE in August 1869 requesting permission to see her daughter and was at that time living in Thompson Street, Maitland.84 She was still alive in July 1874 when she was identified in court as a prostitute.85 No further trace of Mary Ann WELSH has been confirmed after 1874.

Mary Ann’s maternal ancestors almost certainly appeared in the Maitland Courts from at least as early as July 1847.86 The older woman, Mary Ann WELSH, very likely nee MURPHY, was the wife of John WELSH and sister of her co-accused, Richard MURPHY, when they assaulted Daniel FANNING at Mount Thorley. John and Richard were identified side by side in the records for Newcastle gaol in 1847, enabling the confirmation of the ships.87 Mary Ann was further identified as having four children in the assault trial on FANNING88 on 17 July 1847, so was possibly the grandmother of the Newcastle inmate. Gaol admissions and newspaper articles suggested that three of these children possibly were Mary Ann, Eliza89 and Caroline.90 Gaol records for this couple identified that Mary had arrived aboard the Pyramus in 1836 and had been born in about 1815. No appropriate arrival has yet been found on the 1836 voyage of the Pyramus. Mary's brother, Richard, had been transported aboard the James Laing in 1834. The James Laing indent indicated that another brother, Francis MURPHY, had been transported in about 1832.91 John MURPHY had been born in about 1810 and had arrived on the Marquis of Huntley in 1829. These ships were all convict transports. John was in Sydney gaol in 1840 and in Newcastle gaol in 1848. No further gaol admissions have been confirmed. Court appearances indicated that the situation between John and Mary was tense and violent.92 They may also have been the same couple charged with assault in October 1862.93

^^//Note 1: The following family is not connected to Mary Ann BATHGATE but the details have been left here to avoid duplicating the research. Descendants have identified that this couple had arrived aboard the David Maciver in 1856. The death of the wife of John WELSH occurred in 1897 and she had been born in about 1841. Her parents were identified on the David Maciver indent as William and Ann. She was buried in plot 56 in the Catholic 1 Cemetery at Sandgate. Her husband, who was buried in plot 58 in the Catholic 1 section, died in Sydney on 20 September 1900, at the age of 78. The David Maciver indent identified that his parents were Michael and Elizabeth and his death registration confirmed that his father was Michael. A short obituary was recorded in the Catholic Press.

Mr. John Welsh, Sen.
On Wednesday, September 19, at his residence, George-street, Sydney, Mr. John Welsh, sen., breathed his last in his 78th year. He was a very old resident of Newcastle, in which city he carried on the business of a storekeeper for many years, and his body was carried there for interment. The funeral moved from the Sacred Heart church, the Rev. Father J, O'Donohoe, assisted by the Rev. Fathers Cullen and Peters, officiating at the last obsequies. The deceased was born at Celbridge, county Kildare, Ireland, and he leaves two sons and five daughters to mourn their sad loss. The Rev. Father Kelly (St. Mary's Cathedral) administered the last consolations of the church, and attended him in his last hours. R.I.P.94//^^

Note 2: There has been no connection of this family found to the John BATHGATE who arrived on the Sealander in 1837 and who had been born in 1819.

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